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[May. 22nd, 2007|04:35 pm]
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8/16 holdem. I can't remember the details of this hand, but on the river, I called with a pair of nines, a busted draw that could beat a bluff on the end — and beat a bluff it did.

As I'm stacking the pot, a couple people start talking. Apparently I was an idiot for calling here. One guy said, "Did you misread your hand?"

What's the correct answer in this situation? In retrospect, I think it was "yes, I misread my hand" (and please bluff at me more), but instead, I said that the pot was huge.

I'd like to read another book like Middle Limit Holdem Poker, but slightly different. MLHP defines a concept, then illustrates by example. Usually, the first example illustrates the concept, the second illustrates a special case, etc.  It's a little predictble.

What I want is just the examples, and not in any particular order.

I'm aware of How Good is Your Pot Limit Omaha?  I think that's closer to what I want, but I haven't read it yet. (I know how good my PLO is. It's awful.)

The ideal book would be just a few decisions from a hand with the example on the next page. (I was far too tempted to read the solutions in MLHP, which were always the next paragraph.)  How Good... is formatted okay for this, I think,

Does any such book exist?

[User Picture]From: dmorr
2007-05-22 11:53 pm (UTC)
The harrington on holdem books have problems that are like that. Book 3 is just those problems. They're pretty good, actually.

Except that the books are on tournament nl poker, which is maybe not what you are looking for.

Random sidenote: I'm on a 4/4 streak on picking off $100 bluffs in 3-2-5 spread. I wonder if that means I'm not calling enough.
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[User Picture]From: ts4z
2007-05-22 11:56 pm (UTC)
In that game, you probably are.

Is there a $200 cap in that game, like in 1-1-2?
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[User Picture]From: ts4z
2007-05-22 11:57 pm (UTC)
Er, in that game, you're probably doing the right thing. Man, I love calling on the end in that game. Sometimes I'm actually right.
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[User Picture]From: dmorr
2007-05-23 12:07 am (UTC)
Yeah, $200 cap. The cap is way too small -- it's pretty common in big pots for the last two bets to be $200. That means that sometimes you are making limit-style plays at the end.

See my last post for a hand I got into some trouble in part because of that.
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[User Picture]From: scottro
2007-05-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
i've always been very fond of Carson's book. Have you read it/ as crazy as that guy is, he really knows his shit when it comes to Limit HE.

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[User Picture]From: ts4z
2007-05-23 09:01 pm (UTC)
Hm. No. Crazy always trumped information. But thanks — I'll take a look.
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[User Picture]From: zbignieuu
2007-06-05 11:42 pm (UTC)
If by "examples," you mean "quizzes":

There appear to exist two books by Byron Jacobs "with Jim Brier" called How Good Is Your Limit Hold 'Em and How Good Is Your Limit Hold 'Em 2. I haven't read them, but the few reviews I looked at indicate that they are also contain quizzes.

I trust you know about Brier's Card Player articles, some of which are chock-full of quizzes: http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/author/30

Other than the already-mentioned Harrington Volume Three, I don't know of any random-question books.

Come to think of it, this might be a little like what you're looking for: I have a quiz I got from Brier years ago. I converted it to HTML: http://zbigniew.pyrzqxgl.com/quiz.html Although it's a form, there's nothing that processes it, so select your answers, then open a another window containing http://zbigniew.pyrzqxgl.com/solutions.html and see how you did. (Warning: this quiz is so old that he hadn't come up with decent position descriptions, so those are a little lame. ("Seat #8," etc.))
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[User Picture]From: zbignieuu
2007-06-05 11:47 pm (UTC)
> What's the correct answer in this situation?

I've been having fun with "The Standard Answer of the Session." You make up the standard answer prior to the session and always answer with it. The last time I did this, the standard answer was "I had pocket aces." So, in your situation, the standard answer would be, "Yes, I did! I thought I had pocket aces!"
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